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Of course, if you set up your wireless network in such a way that the signal is great everywhere, the cube will work. You can use a desktop as a repeater or place your wireless router approriately. My house is big, and messing up with wiring and placement, I can get the cube to work. But that is, in my opinion, the wrong way to look at it.  When every other device I own works, and the cube doesn't, it shows a fundamental flow in the design that can be corrected in my opinion. Now perhaps in particular circumstances it may not be needed to correct it (if you always have great signal). But by and large, the cube's wifi is very poor.

So my plan is to start by removing the metal strip and see the difference. If this doesn't improve enough, I will simply add an wireless antenna. I even have some old routers laying around, so I may even try to use those antennas before purchasing a new one.

I don't think it is as bad as it sounds. The problems simple related to hardware and design and can be improved at minimal cost, and little time.

I have ordered my Torx T3, so I will be patiently waiting for this to show. I will update once I am done.

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Of course, if you set up your wireless network in such a way that the signal is great everywhere, the cube will work. You can use a desktop as a repeater or place your wireless router approriately. My house is big, and messing up with wiring and placement, I can get the cube to work. But that is, in my opinion, the wrong way to look at it.  When every other device I own works, and the cube doesn't, it shows a fundamental flow in the design that can be corrected in my opinion. Now perhaps in particular circumstances it may not be needed to correct it (if you always have great signal). But by and large, the cube's wifi is very poor.

So my plan is to start by removing the metal strip and see the difference. If this doesn't improve enough, I will simply add an wireless antenna. I even have some old routers laying around, so I may even try to use those antennas before purchasing a new one.

I don't think it is as bad as it sounds. The problems simple related to hardware and design and can be improved at minimal cost, and little time.

I have ordered my Torx T3, so I will be patiently waiting for this to show. I will update once I am done.
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@ USER redo-it-all...........I done that straight away mate, taking off the metal/chrome strip that goes round it etc and yes it does help slightly, BUT, not so much so that it makes it brilliant or even very good at all, so its really just try and see if it helps to be honest.

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I have quite a new high tech ASUS motherboard in my pc that has wifi and bluetooth built into it, you mentioned that I can use my pc as a wifi repeater, how do I do that mate, can you please explain in detail as I dont have a clue to be honest as I have not even used the wifi or bluetooth function on the motherboard yet although the drivers are installed for it etc ???

Please let me know step by step if you know or have some time to spare please thank, that would be great :)

That motherboard is and ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE model if that helps :)

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bearing in mind that my current router is connected to my pc just now via a long approx 10-12meters ethernet cable from where the router is in the next room, the cable comes through the wall etc)

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Hi

thanks for the info.

Yes you can use a PC or even a laptop as a repeater. But note that the CUBE has to be close enough (otherwise there is no point).

If you decide to use a PC, then the PC must have 2 connection interfaces (say 1 ethernet card and one wireless card or wireless USB adapater, or 2 wireless cards). 

Here is an article http://goo.gl/Z0WcbX where they use an additional software (some are free, others are not). There is a tool called connectify that seems pretty cool.

Here is a video http://goo.gl/C8hlo2 (this is not the best video, but it is the CEO)

Dig around. It seems pretty straightforward.

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Hi

thanks for the info.

Yes you can use a PC or even a laptop as a repeater. But note that the CUBE has to be close enough (otherwise there is no point).

If you decide to use a PC, then the PC must have 2 connection interfaces (say 1 ethernet card and one wireless card or wireless USB adapater, or 2 wireless cards). 

Here is an article http://goo.gl/Z0WcbX where they use an additional software (some are free, others are not). There is a tool called connectify that seems pretty cool.

Here is a video http://goo.gl/C8hlo2 (this is not the best video, but it is the CEO)

Dig around. It seems pretty straightforward.
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@ redo-it-all, thank you for the reply :)

Is there any chance you can have a look at my motherboard specifications to check if I would be able to use it as a repeater like you say without having to purchase another wifi card etc please ?

As I mentioned, I dont have a clue with wifi and all that kind of stuff but if it saves me having to purchase another item then that is a big bonus :)

Here is a direct link to the motherboard on the manufacturers website to save you having to look for it etc if you dont mind ?

>>> http://uk.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z77V_DELUXE/

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I've had a probem with my siemens router, several disconnects even close(0.0cm) to my router.

Also i got connection problems to several routers. I've baugt a TP-Link wr-841n router and installed openwrt firmware and all problems are gone. I also removed the "alu-stripe" round the u30gt2.

Now i have fullspeed (6Mbit DSL) connection behind 2 walls with no drop in speed.

If i visit friends i take my tp-link wr703n router/repeater to connect to their wifi which isn't possibe without repeater. Onto the wr703n i've installed openwrt and use it as a repeater. This router is also able to supply max wifi speed behind 2 walls.

The wr703n is super-tiny( 5,7x 5,7x 1,8cm) and only takes 0.5 Watt in use and you can power it by tablets usb without recognising more battery drain because powerconsumtion is lower than most wifi-sticks. With mobile usb-power-supply you can place it wherever you want to expand wifi-spot.

 

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I've had a probem with my siemens router, several disconnects even close(0.0cm) to my router.

Also i got connection problems to several routers. I've baugt a TP-Link wr-841n router and installed openwrt firmware and all problems are gone. I also removed the "alu-stripe" round the u30gt2.

Now i have fullspeed (6Mbit DSL) connection behind 2 walls with no drop in speed.

If i visit friends i take my tp-link wr703n router/repeater to connect to their wifi which isn't possibe without repeater. Onto the wr703n i've installed openwrt and use it as a repeater. This router is also able to supply max wifi speed behind 2 walls.

The wr703n is super-tiny( 5,7x 5,7x 1,8cm) and only takes 0.5 Watt in use and you can power it by tablets usb without recognising more battery drain because powerconsumtion is lower than most wifi-sticks. With mobile usb-power-supply you can place it wherever you want to expand wifi-spot.

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sounds by what your saying then that the best bet is to buy a better more powerfull router that you simply plug into your current router that you have just now then just like I suggested with the model a few posts back, eh, correct ? 
plus, what do you think of that model I suggest in the post ?

This is the one your suggesting, I see its cheaper and has 2 aerials rather than 3 like the one I qouted several posts back, but to be honest I dont really know if there is much of a difference, is there ?

This is the one you are talking about >>>

and this is the one I mentioned that I heard was meant to be really good, but as I say, I dont have a clue what the difference is really >>>>

anyone ?

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will these routers work just fine with any old router such as the old sky routers that have been round a few years etc and only have wpa encryption etc ?

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@scotslad

 

the differece of the routers, that the wr1043nd has got an usb-port and gigabit ethernet, maybe better signal because of 3 antennas. The wr841n has 4MB rom and the wr1043 got 8MB rom.

The amount of rom only matters if you install openwrt and wants to install many openwrt services/addons.

These TP-routers should work fine with any old router. But if you want to use it as a wifi repeater it could be a problem that old routers has 54mbit max. and the Tp-router has to put the wifimodule to 54mbit for both directions of repeating. This can cause a slowdown of internetconnection to ~2-4mbit . But if the Tp-router is connected via LAN then you can have a bandwidth up to 300mbit.(u30gt2 has only max 65mbit.)

 

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Ive decided that I'm not buying another router at approx £40 etc just to try and help this stupid Cube U30GT 2 !

 

Why should we have to do anything ?

 

It should work straight out of the box and it doesnt in many many ways, major fault with signal lose wifi/wireless reception (massive fault), cant really use the touchscreen while the thing is charging batteries, and thats even with a 3rd party better quality charger unit too !

Then theres the problem with you cant charge the unit and have the unit switched off at same time to make charging like 50% faster, thats just rubbish too !

And these are just a few of the faults too, and the biggest joke of them all is that it costs approx £74 to send the unit back to the company, yes the same company you all bought yours from in china too !, you dont get your money back for postage and it has to be sent tracked and insured otherwise you could lose all your money for the product and postage too, so you cant send it standard non tracked or insured post like the company would love you to do.

I have already read on this forum and some others about the horror stories of people sending the goods back even if they are tracked and insured and the company get the goods and then say that they have not received them, Beware guys, thats all I can say is Beware !

I feel like throwing this piece of junk in the bin to be honest !

And then with the greatest of respect I read a lot of you guys trying new test firmwares etc etc to try your best to get it to work slightly better, thats just not right man, it should have came out of the factory "perfect" and none of this rubbish needed, remember your talking about something worth approx £200.00 here, not £2.00 !

Its rediculous as far as I am concerned unless you are an electronics engineer that wishes to open the thing up and buy your own parts and solder them all in yourself, lol, come on guys, thats just not right is it really ??????

I know we all hope it works better but its already been on sale for months now and its still got all the same faults and the hopeless upgrades in firmwares (that should not be needed), should not be left to us (the end users , to test for the company, I dont think so anyway, unless your rich with loads of money and just love throwing your money away on things that dont work properly !

Sorry, but thats just how I feel, very angry !

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I feel your frustration. But I have seen quite a few tablet, and honestly, despite its many flaws, I think it is a good deal (my opinion). If you want a nice table with those spec from a reputable brand, then you would have to shell out double the money.

Compared to the Galaxy Tab 2 (which I have, and cost me almost double the money), this tablet is much better in everyway with the major exception of wi-fi (the signal is weak, and it drops the connection when it sleeps). So I do not know what you compare this tablet to, but if you search a bit, the majority thinks it is a very good deal.

That doesn't mean it's perfect, and doesn't mean you must like it. But perhaps, with such strong feeling on the subject, safety of a name brand and piece of mind might be worth the extra cost of say an ipad. The ipad will work flawlessly for sure.

I made the buy knowingly. In fact I removed the metal strip yesterday and my wi-fi signal went up significantly in such a way I can use the tablet in every room in my house (kitchen and living room included, where I couldn't before). Yet I feel it can be improved so I ordered a 15 bucks antenna to modify my tablet. I knew I'd have to consider this and if I can get the wi-fi sorted, then I do think it is the best deal I could have had.

I am not sure what particular problems make you think it is bad. The battery life is excellent even in HD. Using it in non-HD mode improves performance significantly and battery life as well  (I hate that you have to restart the tablet to switch between display modes though). Most tablets are not capable of HD display like this one, and very few can do it in this price range (I think only chinese tablets would within this price range).

I am sorry you feel bad about your purchase and certainly won't convince you it is a good deal. But personally, based on my knowledge (and limited experience), I am quite happy with mine. Sure I have to modify it a bit, but that's something I actually like. 

You also have the option to sell it. If the price is right someone will buy it. You may lose a bit in the process but at least you have the money back and no hassle anymore.

Whatever you decide, good luck.

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I feel your frustration. But I have seen quite a few tablet, and honestly, despite its many flaws, I think it is a good deal (my opinion). If you want a nice table with those spec from a reputable brand, then you would have to shell out double the money.

Compared to the Galaxy Tab 2 (which I have, and cost me almost double the money), this tablet is much better in everyway with the major exception of wi-fi (the signal is weak, and it drops the connection when it sleeps). So I do not know what you compare this tablet to, but if you search a bit, the majority thinks it is a very good deal.

That doesn't mean it's perfect, and doesn't mean you must like it. But perhaps, with such strong feeling on the subject, safety of a name brand and piece of mind might be worth the extra cost of say an ipad. The ipad will work flawlessly for sure.

I made the buy knowingly. In fact I removed the metal strip yesterday and my wi-fi signal went up significantly in such a way I can use the tablet in every room in my house (kitchen and living room included, where I couldn't before). Yet I feel it can be improved so I ordered a 15 bucks antenna to modify my tablet. I knew I'd have to consider this and if I can get the wi-fi sorted, then I do think it is the best deal I could have had.

I am not sure what particular problems make you think it is bad. The battery life is excellent even in HD. Using it in non-HD mode improves performance significantly and battery life as well  (I hate that you have to restart the tablet to switch between display modes though). Most tablets are not capable of HD display like this one, and very few can do it in this price range (I think only chinese tablets would within this price range).

I am sorry you feel bad about your purchase and certainly won't convince you it is a good deal. But personally, based on my knowledge (and limited experience), I am quite happy with mine. Sure I have to modify it a bit, but that's something I actually like. 

You also have the option to sell it. If the price is right someone will buy it. You may lose a bit in the process but at least you have the money back and no hassle anymore.

Whatever you decide, good luck.

Well said.

It is a bargain tablet, I realise you paid 200 scotslad, but for a mini computer with 2gb ram, an excellent quad core processor, excellent screen to rival an iPad 4, solid build quality, I'm afraid it is a very good deal, but with one catch, to make a tablet with these specs for a bargain price, then the company obviously has to make sacrifices, .... No GPS, I'm guessing a very small software development team :) , no to little support, these are all the things you get from a branded tablet, but they cost at least twice as much.

 

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@ cuberiordan and redo-it-all ,

 

With the greatest of respect what you are doing and saying is you are "condoning" a pretty badly made piece of electronics that loads of people across the internet on many forums, not just this forum are all having the same, similar or worse fault issues with, dont you see that you are actually saying in other words that its ok for a company (any company) to produce goods that are not fit for purpose unless you want to buy extra parts to try and make it works better etc, or turn yourself into an electronics expert overnight and start opening the tablet up and doing electrical work inside it like soldering in a new wifi/wireless antenna that "you" have to purchase with your own money to get etc, plus that little (huge) fact that as soon as you open the Tablet up or even remove that metal strip going round it would infact invalidate the warranty !

There again, what warranty ? there is no warranty ! the company that we all bought these things from has an illegal website, they dont even state a returns policy on the main homepage of the website and the terms and conditions dont mention returns either, as far as I know that is against the law !

Going by other posts on this forum and others, people have tried to return the goods and paid for tracked & insured return and the company tell you they have not received the goods, and/or you may get the tablet back (the exact same unit you sent and unfixed) or it may be damaged or it may get lost in the post because they actually failed to send it at all !

Did you realise all this when you spent £200 on the item ? did you even realise that if you had to return it that the website does not have a returns policy and also that the company will never ever admit on skype, lol, thats another joke, using skype as thier buisness chat facility, they will never ever ever ever admit any of the numerous faults with this unit that loads of people all over the internet in several forums are all complaining about, not just this forum, they wont admit nothing !

Then the best bit of all, even if you just want to return the tablet and get your money back instead of a replacement unit (ive not heard of anyone yet that has been succesfull doing this yet), not only do you risk your tablet being lost in the post (according to the stories I have read even on this forum), but its most likely the company do get the items back and just say they didnt even though its been tracked back to them, not only have you lost your £200 the tablet cost you, you also dont get the price of the postage back that it cost to return it either, I priced a return using UK royal mail international tracked and insured to cover the price of the item and it works out at approx £74.50, I mean come on man, thats nearly half the price of the whole unit !, so you would lose your £200 and your £74.50 ! That is a fact ! Even DHL charge £60 to return this item, but the company said it they dont accept DHL, only royal mail etc or depending on what country you are from you would need to use the normal post office and pay for international tracked and insured, so unless you live near china your looking at a lot of money you will Lose, fact !

I fully understand what you guys are saying about the specifications of the tablet compared to another big named branded model such as apple etc etc, lots to choose from, I know the branded models would cost a lot more money, BUT you guys are missing a simple Giant fact that is very very Important !

That is, a company, any company at all should not be selling goods that are defective and mass selling them all round the world too with these faults ! This is not only against trading laws, its just plain and simply wrong and they are knowingly conning people !

It does not matter what price the tablet is or what it can do etc for that cheaper price, its the fact that it is not fit for purpose, it should work perfectly as soon as you take it out the box just the same as you would expect from any item you buy !

In effect with the greatest of respect guys, you guys are basically saying, lets say for example, its a new Plasma TV you buy for £1000, you guys are making out that its fine that when this TV is delivered that half of the functions on the tv dont work or dont work properly, lol, thats exactly what you are saying is ok if you think about it !

Its not ok, and its against the law, if it was that TV I used as an example, you would be straight on the phone to the company you bought it from or the manufacturer and telling them just to come and take it away as its faulty, and it would not cost you a single penny extra either and you would get all your money back no problem at all, unless you bought your TV from one of those dodgy places in china like this Tablet we are talking about came from, lol, then your in trouble !

I think what the problem is, these backstreet factories or houses or wherever these tablets and things are made in china are protected with the chinese law which basically is lawless and that is why they can play with us and do as they like, thats the problem, they dont have the same type of trading laws as the UK and most of the western world etc, its as simple as that.

I for one will never buy anything again from one of these dodgy chinese places, I would rather save my hard earned cash over a longer period of time and buy a very well known branded item that I know for a fact even if It did have a fault with it as soon as it was delivered, I knowingly beforehand know that I would not have any problems at all should something be wrong with it, that sounds sensible to me, yes more expensive, but with zero risks, do you see my point now ?

Now, I could go on and on here and list in detail all the faults that I have with this Tablet since it came out the box, but I think I have said enough here and you already know half of the faults too, some major, some not so major, but again, there should be no faults at all, but I will leave it at that, I think I have made my point loud and clear, lol, havent I ?

I dont want to go on about this any longer in this particular thread as this is meant for people to try and help other fix thier broken wifi/wireless antenna in the tablet, lol, but the reason why I did post it in the first place in here is because I was saying in an earlier post that I am not buying extra things at my own cost to try and fix something that I have faithfully purchased and then I am expected to fix it myself at my cost, no way ! That is just so so wrong !

Sorry guys, but it is so wrong, I do appreciate what you's are saying, but no, its not right and you know it too :(

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I do agree with you that the company itself cube is very dodgy, but to be honest it wasn't a surprise to me, I assumed I would be taking this risk when I bought it.

 

There are a lot of very cheap tablets out there, mostly from China, and even some built in Europe by small companies, the list would be endless, and just looking at comments on these tabs you can see lots of very happy people and lots of very angry people. 

 

When apple brought out the new iPhone a few years back with the dead hand issue, when people tried to answer a call they would block there network coverage just by putting their hand around the phone in a certain way. This became a big news story and apple immediately rectified the issue and gave people covers to fix the problem, while at the same time changing the design for new customers. So even big companies can make mistakes. However I don't see our problems being reported on BBC news anytime soon.

 

I'll just leave it at this, I'm in college, I just wanted a cheap tab to do reading on, send emails, pretty basic stuff, if I'm watching a movie I use my laptop, because it has a bigger screen. But I would hope some day that I can watch a movie on my cube when I'm on a train or something, but I would expect it just to freeze up at the moment if I tried, so that's the only thing annoying me about it at the moment, however I made the choice to pick performance over stability by using a test ROM, and not  the official.

 

So I guess its each one to their own

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@ cuberiordan , yes we will leave it at that as this thread is for people to try and fix thier faulty tablet etc as I said.

But I have to make a comment on what you said now and thats that its not exactly "cheap" mate as you say, it cost me approx £200 to buy this faulty item that I cant even return because of the horror stories I have read on the internet with people in the same position as myself and loads of other people too.

One Major thing that also really annoyed me with this company is that the power supply/battery charging units they supply with the tablet are very very dangerous, not only do they make the touchscreen not work properly, they can as I personally found, get extremely hot, mines nearly went on fire and I am glad that I was at home when this happened otherwise my house could have been burnt down !!!

Then I was told on this forum that it helps if you buy a better quality power supply, so I forked out approx £11.00 or something like that and bought a much better power supply and guess what, yep, the touch screen still doesnt work properly when your charging the unit up, so its useless in that respect too, and that was after the company "promised" to send me a new power supply which never ever arrived, but that does not surprise me at all.

I tried to explain to the person I spoke to from the company that said they would send a new power supply, I tried to explain that even if they send a new power supply it wont fix any the other numerous faults, but as I said before, if I was to list all the faults just like everyone else has then it means I would be taking even more space on this page of the forum and this page is for trying to repair the broken wifi/wireless antenna that is faulty on every single one of these Tablets that the company has sold I think its safe to say.

Anyway, Ive made my point and will leave it at that, its hardly "cheap" as you say, yes cheap compared to a top of the range apple brand one yes, but £200 is far from cheap, and maybe you will see it on BBC Watchdog sooner than you think mate, lol, items that are potential death traps etc sometimes do and as I said, I dread to think what would have happened if I wasnt at home that day the power supply nearly went on fire !!

Anyways, enough said :)

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Yes I meant `cheap` in comparison, but no 200 pounds is not cheap! :)

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Just my 2 cents:

 

Scotslad,

Although you are not happy with your cube, I sure am!

The device is working the way I want it to, did this out of the box too

I am in fact running a test fw but this is my choice, nobody forced me to do that.

I also did not buy it from the company you are talking about, I bought the cube from a dutch company with 2 years of full waranty.

 

Hope you will be more lucky with your "branded" tab, I sold my p7510 due to lack of support from samsung and some permanent bugs...

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