thanks for that admin, i'd read through a fair old few reviews and thought the 7 g3 sounded a better bet, so you've just confirmed that for me .... to tell the truth most of what you typed went over my head LOL I really do only use it for checking emails, and wanted it basically for that and to watch a couple of videos when i'm travelling, so as long as it had flash!? player, i'd be happy .... here in Tenerife everything is slightly more expensive, you could probably add about 30 euros to most items.  Thanks again.