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ARCHOS 50 Diamond Android 5 “Lollipop” ?
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Will there be an update to Android 5 “Lollipop” for the 50 Diamond? Will it be available for existing devices?

I have fond contradicting information on that topic and since the announcement from ARCHOS in January there was no new statement or estimated release date...

I preordered but am thinking about cancelling as software support is an important issue for me...

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Hello,

Well, it's currently hard to say.

I'd post for reference the Android 4.4 Kitkat promised by ARCHOS for their Helium 45/50 phones that never happened and left a bitter taste to the Helium buyers. 

Still, a 50 Diamond was filmed running with Lollipop at a tradeshow (it was CES or MWC 2015, I can't remember) but not many details were shown to confirm it's a finished product. Even if the Lollipop update comes there is no detail if it will be in the 5.0 branch or in the newer 5.1 which brings better support for dual SIM phones.

So far, the experience with the Diamond device that I am testing (review in progress) is not too bad, the most irritating issue is the lag with the physical menu buttons (video coming soon) a few system bugs and crashes here and there and the default camera app which is not really convenient. Overall, the Diamond is a decent device but the Asus Zenfone 2 (ZE550ML) is superior on many aspects, for a similar budget... and it ships with a stable Lollipop 5.0 :) Having both phones, I'll eventually post an in-depth comparison.

For the past months, ARCHOS has released many products, sometimes with new devices just being minor updates of existing models. Software support supplying regular updates and polished system to their customers seems quite neglected on most models. Let's hope it won't be the case for their flagship model !

 

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Hello,

ARCHOS 50 Diamond owners, the news aren't too good: it seems the Android 5.x Lollipop update for the Diamond is not for tomorrow.Confused

I've read on a french forum a quote from a developer working at ARCHOS mentioning that ARCHOS is facing issues with Lollipop implementation. Here is the quote in French:

    Puisque vous voulez tous tant connaître l'état d'avancement:
    - Les dimensions physiques du framebuffer sont fausses, ce qui fait dysfonctionner les applis de VR
    - Il y a deux providers de GPS qui collisionnent faisant que dans certains cas, le GPS clignote selon les applis
    - On a eu des problèmes de réglage des timings de la RAM, mais ça a l'air bon maintenant
    - De nombreux CTS et XTS restent bloquants
    - La base de données du TelephonyProvider ne se met pas à jour (on hésite fortement à simplement la supprimer)
    - La migration de 32bits à 64bits pose problème au niveau de l'apk GmsCore qui s'est mis à jour par le play-store vers une version 32bits
    - Les calibrations d'usage (réglementation CE sonore, backlight automatique) restent à vérifier/faire
    - On a des problèmes de reconnaissance des MCC/MNC passé des SIMs, qui les font croire dans un autre pays
    - La mise à jour du firmware du TP marche sporadiquement
    - Certaines icônes s'overlappent dans la statusbar
    - La détection de stabilité du WiFi échoue tant qu'une connexion rmnet est ouverte
    - La RTC est réinitialisée à chaque boot (ou alors la RTC est désactivée.)
    - Certaines traductions fournies par Qualcomm sont fausses, créant des crashs de certaines applications
    - L'envoi de SMS avec certaines applications échoue
    - slim_ap_daemon entre parfois en boucle infinie
    - Waze a des glitchs graphiques
    (mais on trouve souvent de nouveaux bugs)

Which roughly translates to:

    As you are all that interested to know the progress status:
    - physical frame-buffer dimensions are wrong, which makes VR apps malfunction
    - there are 2 GPS providers which collides, making that in some case the GPS blinks for some apps
    - we had troubles setting the RAM timings, but it looks good now
    - many CTS and XTS are still blocking
    - the TelephonyProvider database does not update (we are strongly considering to simply delete it)
    - 32bits to 64 bits migration is giving troubles at GmsCore apk which updates by Play Store to a 32 bits version
    - usual calibration (CE noise levels regulations, automatic back-light) still need to be verified/done
    - we have troubles with MCC/MNC recognition passed from SIMS which makes them believe to be in another country.
    - TP firmware update works sporadically
    - some icons are overlapping on the statusbar
    - WIFI stability detection fails when an rmnet connection is opened
    - the RTC is reinitialized at each boot (or the RTC is desactivated)
    - some translations supplied by Qualcomm are wrong, creating crashes on some applications
    - SMS sending with some applications fails
    - slim_ap_daemon sometime enters in an infinite loop
    - Waze application has some graphic glitches
    (but we often find new bugs)

 

This list leaves many problems yet to be fixed and that would probably means we are weeks away from a finished and stable Android 5.x Lollipop firmware, if that ever happens.

This also shows that past communications from ARCHOS on the subject are not worthy of trust (the Diamond was initially announced to be Lollipop upgradable and a more recent Vine post from July 2015 announced some "final tests of Android Lollipop on the 50 Diamond !")

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Good news everybody: Lollipop 5.1 Beta!

Direct Download: http://bit.ly/207fDVp

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Does anybody know if the stagefright issues are fixed with the Lollipop 5.1 Beta?

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I did test on the first Android 5 Lollipop beta (build from 20151015) with Stagefright Detector, it fails on CVE-2015-3876 and CVE-2015-6602, see pictures below.

 

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Too bad, I hoped that switching to Lollipop would make my Diamond more secure. Interestingly today I have CVE-2015-1538 and CVE-2015-6602. So with switching to Lollipop I get rid of 1538 but have 3876 as a new problem.

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Dear all,

 

we are still waiting the notorious Lollipop final update...

From the previous posts I understand that it should be at least almost definitively ready I think.

Correct? Any announcement?

 

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